Feedback, Comments, Love Letters: 2001From: "Wood, Thomas" To: "'menello@aol.com'" Dear Mr. Menello:
Your request regarding James Jones's screenplays was forwarded to me by
Richard King.
One of the principal collections of James Jones's papers at Yale University.
See http://webtext.library.yale.edu/sgml2html/beinecke.jones.sgm.html .
There it states:
"Screenplays make up Section Four, (Boxes 28-30, folders 340-64) and are
divided into screenplays by Jones and screenplays by others. Screenplays by
Jones include an early draft for From Here to Eternity and The Golfer Story.
Screenplays by others contain several drafts of Go to the Widow-Maker by
Thomas Wiseman, The Sicilians by Auguste LeBreton, Un Mur De Jerusalem by
Frederick Rossif, and The Longest Day by Cornelius Ryan. Jones acted as a
technical advisor for this Darryl Zanuck film."
Is "The Sicilians" the same as "The Sicilian Clan"? In any event, you should
contact the Beinecke Library at Yale for more information on these
screenplays. See http://www.library.yale.edu/beinecke/brblprog.htm
The University of Texas at Austin also has a large collection of Jones's
papers. That collection is not yet fully processed. I have a copy of a rough
inventory of that collection, and I see that box 4 contains a film treatment
of "Under Western Eyes." For more information you should contact the Harry
Ransom Humanities Research Center at UT-A: mailto:reference@hrc.utexas.edu
Their website is http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/index.html
We also have some of Jones's papers here at UIS in the Handy Colony
Collection. However, very little of the Jones material here is later than
1955, and none of the screenplays Jones worked on in the 1960s are here.
I hope you find this information useful. Good luck on your research.
Thomas J. Wood From: Menello@aol.com Dear Sirs -- I recently discovered that James Jones collaborated with
legendary filmmaker Nicholas Ray (REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE, JOHNNY GUITAR) in
the 1960s on a couple of screenplays when Ray was living in Europe. One of
the screenplays UNDER WESTERN EYES (aka UNDER WESTERN SKIES) was discussed
at some length in one of Jones' biographies. My question is this, do you know
who I can contact to try and locate these screenplays Jones worked on with
Ray? Do you know if anyone might have them available to read? Can you tell
me what colleges or universities might house collections of Jones's papers and
screenplays? I found one smalll collection which had a couple of
screenplays, but not the ones I was looking for. I am researching Nicholas Ray's
projects done in Europe in the 60s, which were written but never produced. Thanks
again -- RICK MENELLO (menello@aol.com).
From: Robert McMahon An editor at Book Creation, LLC sent me a wonderful book - War of Our
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They plan on being on Iwo Jima 16 March.
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Also, Ambrose will be writing the source document for a new Spielberg film
about the Pacific War. Tom Hanks wants a role in it as a Navy Surgeon. Guess
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Also, hook up with http://www.alibris.com - where you can find old books
that are collectibles!
Best and Semper Fi, Robert L. McMahon From: "kolfam" Hello. My name is Colli Lane Spiller. I attend public school at Kentlake high school in Covington Washington. I am currently doing a report on James Jones and I am having some trouble in finding information on him. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would also like to have a member of the James Jones Literary society as a reference source. I would love to be able to do a live interview by phone. Time is of the essence though for the report is due Febuary 29'th. Thank you for your time.
From: "cherie lemer" I found your website while I was looking at an advertisement for the
Jones exhibit of the Rare Book and Special Collections Library at UI. I am
doing research for a literary analysis class and I need to know if the
manuscript of "From Here To Eternity" that is on display is available for
scholarly scrutiny. Thank you for your time.
Cherie Lemer From: rinkel gene k To: clemer@hotmail.com To: Cherie Lemer: The manuscript of James Jones "From Here to Eternity" is available for use
by scholars visiting the Rare Book and Special Collections Library.
The copying of a limited number of pages for scholarly use is subject to
agreement to arrange appropriate clearances of copyright restrictions.
Gene K. Rinkel From: elliott3@staff.uiuc.edu (Ray Elliott) YI:
"Shana Alexander traveled from the equator to the North Pole during her
career as a journalist," a front-page story in The Daily Illini, the
University of Illinois student newspaper, said today, "but said she had
never gotten the chance to visit the Midwest. On Tuesday, she did."
To commemorate her gift of manuscripts, notebooks, letters and photos to
the University's Rar Book and Special Collections Library. She brought Maya
Angelou and Jean Harris with her.
I share this interesting tidbit of information with you because JJLS board
member Barbara Jones, who is the head of the Rare Book and Special
Collections Library, said, among other things, that the University's
collection of James Jones' work contributed to Alexander's decision to give
the papers to Illinois.
Ray
Ray Elliott From: jones barbara Ray: You are so nice to share this with the board! Yes, I did tell the
story of Gloria Jones introducing Shana to me during lunch. That is,
indeed, how we got Shana's papers. Gloria has always spoken highly of our
care and feeding of the Jones collection, even tho it is small compared to
Austin. I think Shana was impressed.
Hope everyone is well. Will spring ever come to the midwest? Barbara
Subject: James Jones I have visited your page a number of times now, and each time I find
something interesting to take back. I am a relatively recent fan of Jones,
my
first experience with his work, was The Thin Red Line. After reading that
novel, I purchased copies of From Here to Eternity and Whistle. I also
managed to find an old copy of Go to the Widow Maker in a box of old books.
There is just an intangible "something" to his work, something that gives
you
a psychological glance of what W.W.II did to the individual solider and
what
war in general does to soldiers better than any history book could ever do.
James Cicman Jr.
Subject: American War Library Dear webmaster or system manager,
Your site links to an outfit called the "American War Library" at the
following page (listed at Amervets.com on your site):
American War Library is a disreputable organization run by a single
individual under numerous false fronts and false identities. You do
veterans no service by promoting it.
You can learn more about the deceptive practices the "American War Library"
engages in at the following URL:
Sincerely,
Scott Burris - 381st BGMA Life Member Subject: Whistle on Film First I would like to say that this site is a great tribute to Jones and
his
work. I have become a great fan of his war writings and believe them to be
absolutely essential to an understanding of the Second World War especially
as seen by the frontline infantryman. Having said that, do you know where
I
can get a copy of the James Jones T.V. documentary? Also, do you have any
information on a film adaptation of Whistle (which I believe to be the best
in
the trilogy)? I had read that Sidney Lumet was going to direct.
Thank you,
John Pentangelo
Subject: Hanauma Bay, Oahu Hi,
Several Oahu guidebooks mention that after Pearl Harbor, James Jones was
stationed at Hanauma Bay (now a famous beach park and snorkeling site)
and that he and his buddies dynamited the reef there to make swimming
holes. (The shallow reef flat made getting in the water difficult).
Supposedly, Hanauma Bay was code-named Minnesota Beach at the time.
I've been trying to verify this story for a book I'm doing on Hanauma
Bay. I've looked at his WWII book but find nothing there. From Here to
Eternity is set before Pearl Harbor as far as I can tell, so it wouldn't
be in there. (Anyway, it's a novel). Any ideas?
Thanks,
John Hoover Subject: Re: Hanauma Bay Thanks for your help. Last night I looked in Jones's published letters and a biography (Into Eternity) and found nothing on Hanauma Bay. I'm wondering if it might have been mentioned in "The Pistol", even though a novel. Apparently there is a short story as well based on his days on beach patrol. I'll keep
looking.
Aloha,
John
Subject: Some Came Running Hi,
For decades, I have considered Some Came Running, the film, my favorite
and wanted to read the book. I recently bought one from a used book dealer
but while reading it I became too ill to go on because it was a very old
copy, all yellow, and i have severe mold allergies.
I want to know if there is a way I can get or download a nice, new, clean
copy of Some Came Running." Otherwise, I might literally end up in
emergency.
cj harrison
Subject: James Jones question Just finished The Thin Red Line, my first introduction to James Jones.
While I found it to be an interesting and enjoyable work, one thing kept
puzzling me.
Jones was in the Army. The book is about Army soldiers on Guadalcanal. Yet
inexplicably, he often has his characters respond "Aye, sir" or "Aye, aye,
sir." That affirmative response was used only by the Navy and Marine Corps.
Surely, given his military experience and obvious knowledge of the subject
matter, Jones would not have written those responses by mistake. Was he
trying to make a point that the Army soldiers were the same as the Marines?
Or were the lines inserted by mistake in the editorial process?
will appreciate any light you can shed on this question. It would also be
interesting to hear Robert McMahon's opinion. If you recall, he is the
former enlisted Marine who submitted his senior project to your website.
Subject: RE: James Jones Question Thanks very much for your response. I'll look forward to hearing what Bob
MacMahon has to say.
I read the book because I was so disappointed in the movie and felt certain
the book would be better. Glad to say it was.
Do you think I should go back and read From Here to Eternity first, then
go on to Whistle, or do you recommend some other reading order?
Thanks,
Ben
Subject: RE: Question from James Jones Home Page for Bob Thank you very much for writing me with this question. It's funny, but when
I read The Thin Red Line I never actually noticed Jones using that term.
It's probably because I was so used to men using it around me that I never
gave it a thought.
The only explanation I can offer for Jones using the terms "Aye, sir" or
"Aye, aye, sir" is that the people he used as models for these characters
were either prior service Navy/Marine Corps or were using the "Old English"
word in it's most proper way.
The word has no real "naval" tradition associated with it all by itself. Aye
simply means "yes". However, within British military custom - and not just
the Royal Navy - the word "Aye" was always used in reference to a direct
order. It's use more fully means, "I understand and I will obey".
Even today in the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps an "Aye, aye, sir!" is rendered
when an order has been given and not, simply, as an affirmative response to
a direct question. Example:
"Sergeant Welsh, I want you take 1st and 2nd squads and set them up in an
"L" shaped ambush at grid reference Echo 5423. Understand?"
"Aye, aye, sir."
"Sergeant Welsh, is that your compass?"
"Yes, sir."
I think that Jones may have heard this term used in the Army of Pre-WWII
America. However, I also think that we should ask more folks and I will do
just that.
Again, thank you for the note and the question; it's a good one.
Semper Fi,
Bob McMahon
Subject: RE: RE: Question from James Jones Home Page for Bob Richard,
I asked David Hackworth (http://www.hackworth.com) if he ever heard any "Old
Timers" use that term and his response was "Nay, sire...". He thinks that
Jones must've been paying some small tribute to the Marines who were there
first. As Army personnel came later, they may have adopted certain Marine
Corps customs from just being around them and working with them. It's the
only reasons we can think of for Jones to insert this term. Mr. Ballengee
had the same notion as well.
Stay well Richard and have a good summer.
Very best regards,
Bob McMahon
Subject: My Father My father Celestino Coto served in the same company as James Jones at
Scholfield Barracks at Pearl Harbor.
I found this out through a picture of James Jones company which was in TV
Guide in 1979.
For years I have wondered if my father might have been part of a composite
character played by Ernest Borgnine in From Here to Eternity. My
father was a heavy set sergeant, but he was a happy go lucky fellow who
was loved and respected by those who knew him.
Thus, I wondered if Celestino (nickname Tino) were mentioned in Mr. Jones
notes.
I was 5 years old when my father died in 1955, so any information I
receive about him would be greatly appreciated.
Subject: Re: My Father Thanks for all your help. Don't worry if nothing comes of your inquiry,
since it's been almost 60 years since the attack on Pearl Harbor and very
few of those who were there are still alive.
Bob Coto
Date: 7/26/2001 Hello:
In your newsletter Vol. 8, No. 3 Spring 1999, you mention
two army men firing back at the Jap planes bombing Pearl
Harbor, and then testifying what happened around Scofield
Barracks. these men are:
Lt. Stephen Saltzman both of the 98th Coast Artillery, stationed of course
in Hawaii in December of 1941, and who might have
known my father, a sargent in that unit.
My name is John Yavelak, (if they're alive) would I be able to
get in touch with either or both of these men?
Would like to solve a mystery about my father from Dec 7th 1941.
Please reply to yavelak@worldnet.att.net
Thanks!
John Yavelak
Gferguson49@aol.com Sir,
I am a long time admirer of James Jones.I read Eternity the first time in
1964 as a high school freshman.My English teacher refused to believe
me, insisting that I had only watched the movie! Only after a intense grilling
on material that did not appear in the film was he convinced.I have since
read the novel five times.It is like an old friend who I have not seen for
many years. Every time I discover something new and wonder why I had not
noticed it before!
My primary reason for contacting you is:
a) I recall reading somewhere that the original story suffered a great deal
of editing due to the times and Jones 'earthely' language. Do you know of any
plans to re-issue the novel in it's original form?
b)It seems that 'Hollywood'has been on a 'remake kick' for some time now. Are
ther any plans to remake the movie,that you are aware of?
Regards,
Gary J.Ferguson,
Gferguson49@aol.com Richard,
Thanks for getting back to me.
Regarding the original version of the novel, does the U.of Illinois have their
own publishing house? I would think that they might be more interested in the
litatary (Please forgive my spelling)merits of the story. As opposed to whether
it would be a best seller again.
In my first letter to you I forgot to mention that my father was stationed at
Schofield (spelling again) Barracks in the late 30's.Batt.'B', 11th. Field
Artl.He loved the novel.
As for the film version of the Thin Red Line, My personal opinion was very
low.I don't think that it was 'true' to what Jones wrote.The directer tried to
get too artistic. Also, I don't think that many Japs surrendered in the entire
war! I think Saving Pvt.Ryan was much, much better! Let's hope that if they
ever decide to film Whistle they get it right.Take care,and stay in touch.
Gary,
From: "Philip Ternahan" Dear Mr. King:
I noticed that the link concerning the 27th U.S. Infantry
Division is broken. Here is a replacement:
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/lineage/branches/inf/27.htm
Sincerely,
Phil Ternahan
From: "Phil Ternahan" With the events of yesterday, I started to write a paper on From Here to
Eternity and had to start with page 602:
I wonder how many of us had the same thought?
Phil
Philip Ternahan "That was when the second blast came. He could hear it a long way off coming toward them under the ground; then it was there before he could move, rattling the cups and plates in the KP sinks and the rinsing racks; then it was gone and he could hear it going away northeast toward the 21st Infantry's football field. Both the KPs were looking at him.
"He reached out to put his plate on the nearest flat surface, holding it carefully in both hands so it would not get broken while he congratulated himself on his presence of mind, and then turned back to the messhall, the KP's still watching him.
"As there was nothing under the plate, it fell on the floor and crashed in the silence, but nobody heard it because the third groundswell of blast had already reached the PX and was just about to them. It passed under, rattling everything, just as he got back to the NCOs' table.
"This is it," somebody said quite simply. (692)"
The passage above gives James Jones' description of the attack on Pearl Harbor, from the vantage point of Schofield Barracks. Jones, wounded at Guadalcanal, was the only major American writer to have gone through the attack. The recognition implied by the final line of the quotation that America was at war has been repeatedly mentioned in the aftermath of the terrorist actions of September 11, 2001.
It is perhaps apropos that the focus of this paper will be the opposite of hate. Love is a central concern in Jones' From Here to Eternity. The main characters in this story are men and women looking for love, in spite of the strictures placed on their activities by Army regulation, by rank, and by morality.
Robert E. Lee Prewitt, the "best bugler in this Regiment (4)" has put in for transfer from the Bugle Corps because the Chief Bugler, Houston, has promoted his "Angelina" - (the pre-war term for gay sex partner) to First Bugler. Prewitt is presented as a tragic, even heroic figure. His paradoxical nature and conflicts are introduced early in the novel, he is determined to transfer from the Bugle Corps because most of all he wanted to stay (8). His obstinate determination to live life by his rules, regardless of consequences, is what results in his fall from grace "one rung at a time" as one of the characters puts it.
Also, the strictures of regimental life are clearly outlined early in the work. Red, his friend, tries to talk him out of the transfer, and makes a telling remark "You can't go your own way in peace, not in our time. Unless you're willing to play ball (9)." Prewitt's refusal to "play ball" results in him getting "The Treatment," as the system tries to break him because he will not go out for the boxing team. Prewitt is an enigma, a classy professional soldier but yet one willing to flaunt the rules that attempted to make him conform to go his own way.
On the other hand, First Sargeant Milt Warden, also Old Army, is portrayed as a ruthless and efficient conniver who knows how to use psychology to get the men in his company to achieve his goals.
From: MHKipfer@aol.com hi,
i've been asking myself a long time
"why did james jones name the madam at the brothel in honolulu mrs kipfer ?
and what might be his connection to the kipfer family ? "
after all, kipfer is not a name heard very often.
i'm afraid, so far i haven't been able to get an answer. not even in joneses biography by frank macshane.
i would be happy could you answer me this question.
thanks.
markus h kipfer
From: TEX922@aol.com I have just moved to Hollywood Fl and have been told that James Jones lived on Jackson St on the beach in Holloywood, FL. for some time.
Could you confirm and if so what year.
Thank You for your time,
Mike Smith
From: "Wood, Thomas" Rich:
The answer to the first question is easy: a reporter from Miami did a story
on Jones's homes and haunts in Florida a couple of years ago and my research
found:
2 Oct 1951 - 11 Oct 1951
Jones joins Lowney Handy at South Shore Apartments, 301 Jackson St,
Hollywood FL, where Handy had been living since Sept. They travel to Havana
around 6 Oct 1951. Jones leaves FL around 11 Oct.
Exactly 50 years ago. Weird.
As the the Mrs. Kipfer question: Jones of course tended to base the
characters in FHTE on real people he knew, changing their names slightly (or
in the case of Maggio, not at all!) But WHERE he got the fictional names --
I don't know. I might take a look at his notes, but I wouldn't be surprised
that this one has no firm answer.
Thomas J. Wood From: Paul Umfleet I am somewhat of a fan of James Jones and have enjoyed looking around your web site. What I am really trying to find is information about the author Frances Crane. If you do not know about her, she is from Lawrenceville IL (where I live) and was a popular mystery writer. At the end of her book "13 White Tulips" she mentions her friend Jim Jones. Because of this I wondered if she had anything to do with the "colony" and if any information of Jones' mentions her. I am doing research for the local historical significance with hopes of a web site in the future. If you have any information about Frances Crane or could direct me to any it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Paul Umfleet
From: Bulldog0051@cs.com cna u tell me more about james jones life please i would like to know? thanx
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